A friend of mine was divesting himself of some firearms this year, and one of the weapons was a Kimber Stainless Pro Carry II .45ACP. I took the pistol out for a run this week, and while I didn’t put a lot of rounds through it, I did enough to get a good feel for the pistol.
First off — aesthetics: The pistol is lovely. The stainless steel slide and the aluminum frame give it a two-tone silver look. The rubber grips look all right, but I think I’d like to swap to the black and brown grips they use on the Eclipse. It had come with the Hogue rubber finger grips for the front of the handle. Hated them, even though they probably contributed a bit to the excellent performance of the gun. The pistol is a commander-sized 1911, so it’s a 4″ barrel and a normal grip size. Here it is now…
Next, let’s discuss the carry factor. The size is nice — about on par with the Walther PPQ I like to carry. Weight-wise, I was very surprised. The Walther PPQ tips the scales with a full magazine of 115 grain 9mm at about 24-25 oz., the FN FiveSeven with twenty 27 grain about 25-26 oz., and the Pro Carry with eight 230 grain rounds is 32 oz. About half a pound heavier than the other two guns, but still well inside the comfortable to carry all day range. It also fits in the chest pocket my motorcycle jacket — the main requirement for a concealment gun — well enough to be drawn quickly. In short, it’s an excellent choice for carry based on weight to power.
Function: The accuracy of the gun is astounding. For as light as it is, the recoil is very manageable; certainly no worse than any other 1911 .45 I’ve fired. The sights are minimalist — no dots, just black front post between two black back posts…the way I like it. At 10 yards and a steady but not slow pace, I put eight in a 2.5″ group. Most probably never touched paper. At fifteen, which seems to be where I start to see degradation on accuracy for most pistol, I was still getting 3-3.5″ groups. I didn’t try a 25 yard test as I was out of ammo quickly. It’s a blast to shoot.
(Side note — the new eyes [I had LASIK done last week] probably helped with my accuracy. I’m about 20/10 now and could actually make out the 5.7mm hits a friend was making at 10 yards with little difficulty!)
As to the mechanical function – here we run into one of my complaints on Kimber. I doubt the previous owner(s) had put more than 200-400 rounds through the pistol, and the function was still a bit rough. The whole “you need to break it in” thing that shooters put up with is stupid. If you buy a guy and actually need it that night, what bloody good is it if the thing malfunctions because the manufacturer couldn’t do a bit of polishing and testing? I have never had to break in a Tanfoglio Witness (as much as folks love to malign them), nor my CZ, nor the FN, nor the Kel-Tec .32s I’ve owned. They worked.
The Kimber loved to jam up on the first round or two. I swapped mags — not the issue. Once running, it was fine after the first shot or two. the spring, to me, felt weak. The Pro Carry’s supposed to have a 22 lb. recoil spring, but it was about the same strength as my colleague’s Witness .45 (also on the range at the time) — a 16 lb. spring. I had my Witness with a Wolff 20 lb spring. this was not a 22 pound spring. I think this was the issue with the function, which admittedly eased toward the end of the session.
So I ordered up a 23 lb. Wolff spring for it.
Outside of the break-in or weak spring nonsense, the gun ran like a top. Enough so, it is replacing the Kel-Tec .32 I’ve carried in my motorcycle jacket for a decade. It’s not as light, true, but it doesn’t print and doesn’t seem to weigh the jacket down. I’m calling it Wee Jock.
The MSRP on the Kimber is just shy of $1100. It’s not worth that. Find a used one for about $700, it’s definitely worth it. Find it for less than that — jump on it.
UPDATE: My second outing with the Kimber saw no malfunctions, using crappy Blazer ammo. Shot a few rounds of Critical Duty .45, and wow! do you feel the +P with that frame.
31 January, 2013 at 13:50
If you’re considering doing any amount of shooting with this, or plan to rely on it, I’d urge you to consider swapping the safety, sear, and hammer with milled or forged parts rather than the MIM parts Kimber is fond of using to keep their internal costs and finishing times to a minimum.
31 January, 2013 at 15:01
True enough. I don’t think I’ll be doing a ton of shooting, what with all the ammo hoarding going on.
31 January, 2013 at 16:16
Someone posted ~900 rounds of XM193 for $500 on one of the lists I’m on. I saw the post come in, replied to the sender, and found that I was the seventh person who replied to that one post. It’s nuts. The only hopeful thing is that when things settle down there should be some decent bargains.
31 January, 2013 at 16:31
Yeah, it’s the same shit as last time. Except that time, it was amusing because everyone was telling me I had to get a 9mm because “you can always find the ammo” — except no one could fine it…but I always had a line on 5.7 or 10mm.
This time is completely different. Everything is out this time,
31 January, 2013 at 18:50
Big time. I read an analysis of Feinstein’s legislation and there was an interesting bit of wordsmithery involved. Anything with a grip and detachable magazine is an assault weapon and falls under the bill. Anything.
People are worried and I don’t blame them. However, I think we’re in a better position today than we were in 1994; we know what happened, we know their tricks, and thanks to the internet we’re very informed and can react within minutes of something being posted.
It doesn’t mean I’m going to take up the guy who offered me $4500 for my AUG A3 CQC, but it does ease my anxiety somewhat.
31 January, 2013 at 23:43
I think their mad dash to capitalize on Sandy Hook finally put a boot up a few million asses that have been watching the past few administrations take increasingly bigger bites of our liberty. The elections seemed to bring it home how the political class was ignoring their constituents — from the blatant cheating to get Romney nominated to the fiasco with the motions to stop supporting Israel in the DNC platforms.
The politicians were scared shitless by the Tea Party, both sides. They’re terrified of losing the ability to steal from us and give us back scraps. Getting rid of our guns insures that. Fortunately, people are pushing back hard and it looks like they’re getting the message, just based off the sudden spate of federal court cases that have suddenly been finding for constitutional and property rights.